Chimps Need Churchin'

Forget the economy and healthcare reform because according to a mayoral candidate in Tulsa, Oklahoma the big issue facing us is to bring some churchin’ to the zoo. Just when I thought we were getting past that whole creationism has a place in science debacle, there are people who still have not let it go.

Here is Anna Falling, candidate for mayor of Tulsa in her own words:

"Unless we find ways to engage the Church back into public policy decisions we will be lost as a city, state and nation."

Back into? I don’t think there was ever an “into” in the first place. You see, separation of church and state and freedom of religion is one of those things that makes our country great. People who try to impose their religion on everyone else is something we can do without.

I like to go to the zoo to learn about animals and if I want to learn about religion there are plenty of churches to go to. Tell you what – keep your religion out of my zoo and I will keep animals out of your church. Okay, I’ll let you have your live nativity scene and for the crazies you can have your snakes but that’s it. No more.


JSwift said...

Ms. Anna Falling seems to want to put Oklahoma up there (down there?) with Kansas and Texas.

People like her give Christianity a bad name.

She should try some light reading like "Darwin's God" by evolutionary biology professor Kenneth Miller or "Misquoting Jesus" by UNC religion professor Bart Ehrman.

History Matters said...

One can argue either side of this issue. There are good points to made from both positions. However, invoking "separation of church and state" is not appropriate here. Jefferson used that metaphor to describe one aspect of the First Amendment, not as a guide to totally understanding it.

The men wrote wrote and ratified the Constitution, as one of their first acts as The U.S. Congress, started their session with a 3-hour prayer. These men were not afraid to ask God for help with the awesome tasks ahead. This was their practice during the Revolutionary War and continued after we became a country.

It is probably important to remember that the preamble of the OK Constitution says, "Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessing of liberty; to secure just and rightful government; to promote our mutual welfare and happiness, we, the people of the State of Oklahoma, do ordain and establish this Constitution."

Doesn't that mean that religion was in fact "into" government? Not as a forced, official religion, but as the acts of faithful servants to use ALL their resources to come to the best conclusions possible.

jk said...

Nice try, HM, but preambles have no legal force. Especially among those who take a "literalist" view of interpreting the law.

The Notes on the Laws of Virginia are also pretty adamant on those points.

And what part of "make no law" don't you understand?